Grinding

Bond18 · 10-04-2008, 03:06 AM

I’ve been talking to a number of my friends who are highly successful tournament grinders lately such as Seabeast, Psyduck, and StevoL about the ‘bigger picture’. What we’re trying to accomplish through poker, what we want to do outside of
that, how much money we think we need to accomplish these goals, life style choices, etc. We’ve especially been talking a lot about money management.

The thing that never stops startling me about the poker community, and especially the multi table tournament community, is just how many guys are reckless with their bankroll and general money management. I’m not necessarily a master of either, but ...

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birdsnbees · 10-04-2008, 09:06 AM

This was really motivating! I'm with you Tony, lets do this. See you at the tables.

- Show da Scrilla

10-04-2008, 09:11 AM

Hey Tony,

This post really hits the nail on the head. It is just astounding to me the number of poker players who seriously have 0 BR management, don't care about losing money, huge egos, the list goes on. Not to say I'm a bankroll nit, but there is a point where putting 10k on a live event simply doesn't make good LIFE sense, even if your bankroll is in well in the 100s-200s. Selling action seems not to appeal to many people, and I simply don't get it.

Oh well, I say let them do what they want, pursue the extravagant lifestyles they do. Grinders like you and I are lucky enough to be comfortable enough with the way we play and what we play.

See you in Auckland

mjbern23 · 10-04-2008, 11:57 AM

really good post Bond!! definitly some life lessons there for everyone!!

Mj

EdmondDantes · 10-04-2008, 03:13 PM

Dead on post, man. Except the gigantic live vig part, of course

. We take just enough to pay the hottie who brings your next Corona. Surely, you wouldn't begrudge us that?

10-05-2008, 07:32 PM

Nice article bondy

brad2002tj · 10-06-2008, 01:56 PM

Yup, the players who only play the highest buyin events are leaving tons of money on the table for no reason.

10-06-2008, 02:46 PM

great article as usual.. thx for your thoughts sir...

scalawag · 10-06-2008, 03:15 PM

Excellent post. I've been thinking a lot about my own bankroll management lately. I think a lot of people don't want to be considered grinders, but want all the money associated with it. A lot of people have the "just one big win" mentality, which generally leads to their downfall.

lakeoffire · 10-07-2008, 01:51 AM

Great advice, Bond. You will definantly see me at the tables.

10-04-2008, 03:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
Bond18 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 151	Grinding I’ve been talking to a number of my friends who are highly successful tournament grinders lately such as Seabeast, Psyduck, and StevoL about the ‘bigger picture’. What we’re trying to accomplish through poker, what we want to do outside of that, how much money we think we need to accomplish these goals, life style choices, etc. We’ve especially been talking a lot about money management. The thing that never stops startling me about the poker community, and especially the multi table tournament community, is just how many guys are reckless with their bankroll and general money management. I’m not necessarily a master of either, but ... Read Full Post

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10-04-2008, 09:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
birdsnbees Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11	This was really motivating! I'm with you Tony, lets do this. See you at the tables. - Show da Scrilla

10-04-2008, 09:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
Andrew Li Guest Posts: n/a	Hey Tony, This post really hits the nail on the head. It is just astounding to me the number of poker players who seriously have 0 BR management, don't care about losing money, huge egos, the list goes on. Not to say I'm a bankroll nit, but there is a point where putting 10k on a live event simply doesn't make good LIFE sense, even if your bankroll is in well in the 100s-200s. Selling action seems not to appeal to many people, and I simply don't get it. Oh well, I say let them do what they want, pursue the extravagant lifestyles they do. Grinders like you and I are lucky enough to be comfortable enough with the way we play and what we play. See you in Auckland

10-04-2008, 11:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
mjbern23 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NY Posts: 10	really good post Bond!! definitly some life lessons there for everyone!! Mj

10-04-2008, 03:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
EdmondDantes Guest Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Formerly, Chateau d'If. Now, at large in California...last seen in Fresno, propping 2/2 NL... Posts: 105	Dead on post, man. Except the gigantic live vig part, of course . We take just enough to pay the hottie who brings your next Corona. Surely, you wouldn't begrudge us that?

10-05-2008, 07:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Wonky Guest Posts: n/a	Nice article bondy

10-06-2008, 01:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
brad2002tj Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 36	Yup, the players who only play the highest buyin events are leaving tons of money on the table for no reason.

10-06-2008, 02:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nakamator Guest Posts: n/a	great article as usual.. thx for your thoughts sir...

10-06-2008, 03:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
scalawag Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 19	Excellent post. I've been thinking a lot about my own bankroll management lately. I think a lot of people don't want to be considered grinders, but want all the money associated with it. A lot of people have the "just one big win" mentality, which generally leads to their downfall.

10-07-2008, 01:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
lakeoffire Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 52	Great advice, Bond. You will definantly see me at the tables.