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Check Your Ego At The Door

I feel the need to write this blog for a few reasons... 1) I think the majority of players that write on this forum are young guys ranging from 21 to 35 .. Yes,, I am an old guy,,darn near 45 years old,, and most of you guys cut your teeth online.. I ,on the other hand was a casino regular much before the on line explosion ..

2) I think sometimes ( just my opinion ,,, some of you guys need to check your egos at the door,,when it comes to your poker wisdom..

As someone who has been through a few valleys to go with the peaks in my poker journey ,,,, I think it is real important to realize that a month ,, six months ,,or even sometimes even a year,, still may not be enough time to determine if you are truly a winning player.. Now of course I realize you young guys are playing a gazillion more hands online than us live dinosaurs ,,but you get the point... All of a sudden a guy wins a big internet tourney and makes a big score,, and he self proclaims himself a poker pro.. or even worse ,,a poker expert ,,as far as all forms of strategy are concerned.. And what is with this continual berating of other players as donkey's .. It is sometimes comical when reading a blog ,,and one of the bloggers is explaining his wonderfully conceived bluff, only to have a so called donkey call him with top pair,,or aghast!!,,even middle pair.. How could the donk make that call??? Doesnt he realize what I am representing?? What a moron!! This is the classic example of our expert suffering from F.P.S (fancy play syndrome) Our expert is thinking on level 3 ,when his opponent is on level 1 .. So who is the real donkey?? Isnt the idea to want to play against bad players,, because in the long run you will get their money... So why must you guys berate your competition so much... they should be your customers..

3) Tournament Poker - this is another issue I have with you young guys.. Lets call it what it is .. The Variance in tournament poker can be at times mind numbing... Just because one of you guys won a huge MTT doesnt make you any better than the last 50 or so players who got knocked out before you.. To win ,,you caught some breaks along the way,, and yes you got lucky! I am sure you played well ,,but so did the other 5o players who waded through the field of 2500 players or so..Unfortunately, they dried up at the end ,,or ran into a monster,,or got sucked out,, and you didnt.. Bottom Line... When I cashed 2ncd in a FT $20 MTT with 1520 players ,,when we got down to the last 50 or so players , I was dealt pocket Aces 4 times in about 30 minutes.. I won two monster pots on two of them where my opponents had QQ and JJ respectively ,,and the two other pots went my way as well.. I was lucky,, I played well,,but I was lucky! That is of course until I got heads up and put my opponent All In with a 2/1 chip lead with A J against A 4 and he spiked a 4 on the river and that propelled him to victory.. I got unlucky... such is tournament poker ... All of us above average players know all the basic principles of tournament poker,,, stack sizes ,, your M factor,, pot control,,, betting patterns ,,etc etc... Guess what.,, all you can do in a tournament is try to make good reads ,, not make any huge mistakes ,,keep putting your opponents to the test,, get it in good,, and hope for the best...

4) Cash games - now if you want to make your bones ,,show me your day in and day out winnings in the cash games over time and I will give you some respect.. Not in a month,, not 6 months ,,not even a year.. If I can log back on in 2 or 3 years and you are still grinding out a living ,than you get all my respect... You dont have to have a big tourney score on your resume,, you have a proven track record ,,which in my book is much more credible than a tourney score...

As Doyle Brunson said when asked about certain players,,and whether he thought they were the real deal or not,,his response was "Check back with me in 5 years".... Time will tell for all you guru's,, so I wish you the best ,, just have a little more humility and respect for your fellow players.... Your never as good as you think you are !!


Anonymous says

Don't hold back stinger! The berating of players is something I can do without and I think for the most part poker is still a gentlemens game( mostly live play). People say things to me online they would never say if I was sitting next to them...believe me. I have respect for anyone at my table until they give me a reason not to.


Jason (Anonymous) says

Nice post. Good thoughts. Critical, but not in a mean way.


harlem says

Have to agree that putting others down is not appropriate and also that a good barometer for success is over years and not months. Hope this post can make a difference.


Swami54 says

I'm just glad I'm considered young in the range you mentioned :)
I feel old as internet poker age goes.


EdmondDantes says

First, sad to say, but a couple of us on the site are in your age demographic. Second, I agree with you that there's no room for berating a player at the table, but let's face it, there's some pretty atrocious play out there and there's something cathartic and often instructive about dissecting hands afterward. If a guy adds a little color commentary and no one's hurt, what of it? Again, I'm all for holding your tongue at the table but away from the table, it's no different than a sportswriter calling a guy a bonehead for muffing an easy play.

I'd also like to say the only guys that shoot their mouth off at the table are the young-uns, but I've seen some old, obnoxious, bigoted know-it-alls, too. Just think of all the horrible advice you hear at the table daily. Is it really that out of line to post your friends and tell them about it? It's like the Darwin Awards out there sometimes, man. Sometimes you just need to post a friend and say, "Can you believe that?"

Finally, there's a one-hit wonder or two banging around, but there's a number of guys posting here that have put up significant wins consistently. I'll wager that a lot of the guys you see posting here have more than five year staying power. They might blow their winnings on something stupid, but you see that in any profession, right? Kids these days... Edmond


stinger says

I can appreciate your politically correct comments.. Edmond,,are you in the political arena? ,, or possibly public relations of some sort..You have a soothing way of mediating differing opinions.. I, on the other hand speak my mind without some of your political subtlety.. However ,there is so much bullshit in the poker world ,,it is refreshing to hear someone be honest ..Honest about their play,, their results ,,their bakroll,,their opposition ,,etc,,etc,, Just trying ot keep it real!


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