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MONSTER SUCK OUT!! Misplayed for many reasons

So was playing the $3/$6 on PS the other day when this doozy came up. The MP2 player was Loose-Agressive, playing too many pots, and betting hard on everything. if people missed, they would fold and not play back at him. He had gone to the river a few times and shown some marginal hands.

We are 7 handed and he raises to $18, standard 3x raise, the Button calls, and I have QQ in the SB. Raise? Call? I decided to raise to $50 as MP2 could have anything including AJ - Ax, and since the Button just called, I figured he would fold to a raise and had just called with a marginal hand to see the flop.

Let me just say now, I screwed this hand up good and got lucky. Don't think I don't know it!

MP2 raises me to $150, the button folds (as expected) and I go all in and he called...


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($300)
UTG ($322.20)
MP1 ($330.95)
MP2 ($375.90)
CO ($184.40)
Button ($934.85)
Hero ($783.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
2 folds, MP2 raises to $18, 1 fold, Button calls $18, Hero raises to $60, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $150, Button folds, Hero raises to $783.9, MP2 calls $225.90 (All-In).

At this point I feel like i screwed up, as he may be LA, but he wouldn't call my all-in without a monster. And I am right, he has AA. But... the poker gods decided to shine on me...


Flop: ($1183.80) 8, Q, 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Flopped top set! Here's the sick part... Had I just called the $18, the button would have seen the flop too, and he said after he laid down KK. If I just call, MP2 is first to act and would most likely bet the pot $54. the Button with his KK would def. re-raise, to??? $150? that would make sense, cause a min-raise of $100 is to cheap. At which point I could have re-re-raised (or just called, hard to say right now what I would have done then), but point being that I lost money on this hand (Button's re-raise), by betting him off the hand.

Turn: ($1183.80) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($1183.80) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

And just to kick a man when he is down, QUADS just for shits and giggles.

Final Pot: $1183.80

Results:
MP2 has Ac Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
Hero has Qc Qs (four of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $1183.80.

Bad Beat?? Hard to say

So here's the deal, I am playing the PStars $150 tourney on 11/30, I am short stacked and look down at 33 in the SB. Everyone folds to Seat #2 MP player (who just lost most of his chips on a river suckout to Seat #9) and he goes all in. Everyone folds around to me, and I think:

1. I am short stacked (10 BB left)
2. He just lost a pot and is steaming
3. He def. has 2 overs = only 6 outs
4. I am ahead 57/43

I am 99% sure I am ahead with my pair, so he has 6 outs. I am OK with that since I am short stacked, and decide that I am either going to double up and get back in the mix, or I'm out and that's ok with me.
So I call...


PokerStars Game #7246273009: Tournament #36312336, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/11/30 - 22:08:50 (ET) Table '36312336 108' 9-max
Seat #5 is the button
Dealt to Podiman [3h 3s]
Seat 1: TheRock93 (3032 in chips)
Seat 2: Papa Bull XL (1425 in chips)
Seat 3: Plenty4all (5848 in chips)
Seat 4: italian09 (2585 in chips)
Seat 5: rockdown (1095 in chips)
Seat 6: Podiman (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: GB2005 (2025 in chips)
Seat 8: muchakja (1465 in chips)
Seat 9: mnkyman (11522 in chips)
Podiman: posts small blind 75
GB2005: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Podiman [3h 3s]
muchakja: folds
mnkyman: folds
TheRock93: folds
Papa Bull XL: raises 1275 to 1425 and is all-in
Plenty4all: folds
italian09: folds
rockdown: folds
Podiman: raises 75 to 1500 and is all-in
GB2005: folds


Before I show you the rest of the hand, both hands are turned up and he has 22!!! Can you say DOMINATED!?!?! QUACK QUACK! I am an 81% favorite to win the hand with 33 vs. 22, I can't ask for him to have any other 2 cards where I would be such a huge favorite!
Now....




*** FLOP *** [Ah 2c As] <-- HITS HIS TWO OUTER!!

*** TURN *** [Ah 2c As] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [Ah 2c As Kh] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Podiman: shows [3h 3s] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
Papa Bull XL: shows [2d 2h] (a full house, Deuces full of Aces)
Papa Bull XL collected 3000 from pot
Podiman said, "hahahaaa"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3000 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 2c As Kh 5c]
Seat 1: TheRock93 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Papa Bull XL showed [2d 2h] and won (3000) with a full house, Deuces full of Aces
Seat 3: Plenty4all folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: italian09 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: rockdown (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Podiman (small blind) showed [3h 3s] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 7: GB2005 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: muchakja folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mnkyman folded before Flop (didn't bet)


The answer to the title (my opinion) is YES this is a bad beat... but only once we see the hands. If he had two overs as I thought, and am only a 57% favorite, and he hits, it's not a bad beat.

SO.. Is it or isnt it??

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